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Right, but it not worth $1 until we actually engage in that transaction. Right now it sitting in my pessimizer account worth exactly $0. But to me, since how much someone buys something for is the central determinant of its price, it not worth that price until someone buys it for it. So, perhaps it isn even $0. The price of my AqueousCoin is (undefined)
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Aqueous 212 days ago link
I don see why new currencies should start at $0. It ended up being a means of exchange because its properties are suitable: it highly valuable, easily divisible and durable, and other stuff I forget now. Currencies function well when they grow in line with the growth in the economies they serve. When they fail to do so, people become reticent to actually use them in commerce, which increases hoarding, increasing theoretical value, but reducing actual utility.
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You mine a little, the value of your coins just keeps on rising. Get a stack of currency. Then that become too difficult to mine and newcomers will move onto the next. And the next.
value. All currencies are going to start off at $0, being worth nothing. Obviously the price can only go up as adoption occurs. So any start up currency has a "growth phase" during which its value increases exponentially. And during the growth phase the number of vendors also increases exponentially. Currencies have always been issued by governments before now, and up start currencies have only really been possible since the advent of the Internet. From the moment it came online, it had some intrinsic value because of its status as legal tender in the eurozone. That what I mean. I talking about start up currencies here; the EU could offer its currency higher than $0 because it was putting its own credibility behind it. But that the only because people agreed to buy it at $0.80. The euro is, by definition, the official currency and legal tender of the eurozone. If we going to count the essential characteristics of what something is as extrinsics, then we wandered off into some epistemological bizarro world where you can probably get away with whatever you want about anything.
I count being the official money of the eurozone as an extrinsic quality, not an intrinsic one. Fiat money is intrinsically worthless, just like BitCoin. In my view this just means there will always be at least one vendor that accepts the US Dollar (the US government) and while that a nice guarantee, it makes the dollar different only in degree, but not kind, from BitCoin.2) is slightly more interesting because it means that while Bitoin may be outlawed, the dollar will most likely never be outlawed, and the current regulatory framework governing money transfers, financial reporting, Nike Roshe Run Zappos etc. At this moment, I issuing an AqueousCoin to your pessimizer account. In order to spend it, all you have to do is prove your identity by logging into HN in front of me or in front of a notary public, and I will send you $1 (minus postage.)Done?Sometimes (or possibly always by definition) the vendor comes before the currency.
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That is the fundamental misconception in regards to the crypto currrency and (in my opinion) indicative of why they will probably never catch on in any mainstream fashion. If the currency was successful, the end user was never intended to be able to mine a meaningful level of currency themselves. The act of mining is required to facilitate transactions and miners get a small part of those transactions for participating. The initial payouts are there solely (in theory) as incentive for the early adopters to mine when the transaction volume is small and to allow them to give the currency an early liquidity. In practice, because of the deflationary nature of the coin and the domination of speculation over transactions involving some tangible goods or services, people are hoarding them expecting increases in value. This is not a good hallmark of a currency and is a flaw that all the derivative coins fail to address.
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