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luckystrike 723 days ago link
too. So you're hampering your prices, word of mouth network further if you take on work and underdeliver. So far i've gotten 51 visitors in 20 minutes. Almost 95% of the traffic so far is European, and not American. That's completely different from Who's hiring/freelancer thread trend i've been seeing for the past 6+ months.
How do you find clients
Re your PS3: it's labor day here in America, which means (nearly) every American with a normal job is off for the day and is outside barbecuing.
sidmitra 723 days ago link
Also, from building social network clones(for $200) to building proper webapps for well known startups and companies like Compete, Hubspot. Sign up for all freelancer Marketplaces: Elance, Odesk, Guru, Freelancer, RentACoder. Sign up for RSS feeds for jobs(full time/freelance) in your domain. Start bidding, sending out emails to all of the above that apply. You're bidding against devs from 3rd world countries(so you will have to price somewhere in the median atleast until you get your first decent folio piece done) Also it doesn't matter if your request doesn't exactly apply. Don't be self selective. Also even if you don't expect to get that job, apply still. Get your name out. Be very communicative, friendly and more open than a simple 'Here's my folio' etc. You're trying to sell yourself, so figure out what the client want, customize your pitch. This part will take a bit of hit and trial on your end to figure out how to get the first client reply. If your post looks like others, then you won't get one. Work on the side on your own project, something that's production worthy and you can showcase if the above steps haven't worked till then. Reply to posts on HN, Ask HN like Who's hiring + Who's hiring a freelancer. Even add yourself to HN contractor list and anything similar you see elswhere. Market, Market, Market every chance you get. I used to spend atleast 3 4 hrs initially just sifting through job posts, replying, emailing everyday. Remember to raise your prices sooner than you think. Recently i've been trying out Google adwords, which haven't really led to a lot of hits. But i've been getting like 1 really good query for like 100 clicks. For the average amount i make per invoice, that ad costs are very minor even at the ridiculous CPCs to hit the front page. A lot of people mention word of mouth here. This is really the best way. For every satisfied client you're essentially expanding your network exponentially and getting Roshe Run Triple Black Mens
from a single dev(me) to a team of over 6 devs(+ a designer) in various countriesGood going, Sid. And wish you even more success in the coming times!
marquis 723 days ago link
iamben 723 days ago link
Yes, you're absolutely right!I guess at the time I was worried about what people might say if I asked for too much or what would happen if I didn't get any work. It's dreadfully hard to rid yourself of that mindset.
When bidding, you don't need to go below everyone else I go above every single time, and also explain to potential clients why I'm the best choice (top quality, deliver on time). Of course you need some kind of portfolio to back up your statements. Cheap clients deny the bid. The idea is to start low and ramp up very very quickly. It depends on how much work is on your plate, or how less. It also depends on the market. So when tomorrow a lot of these startups go belly up and billion dollar valuations runs dry, so might your work. You can always bill some hours you might not bill on the higher rate. For eg. sometimes i leave off some of the research hours when i'm billing a higher rate, but i bill them when i bid a lower one for whatever reason.
but I'm curious how above board they are.
tzaman 723 days ago link
chbrown 723 days ago link
Don't think that'll help much or is the right kind of strategy. Firstly you have a better chance trying to showcase your portfolio. If you don't have that yet, then it doesn't warrant the higher rate and you might anyways get rejected on the lower end. Compete on quality. It's a good idea to eliminate the cheapskates ahead of time.
sidmitra 723 days ago link
Actually yes you're right. I used to price somewhere in the median/average. I think i worded it wrong. I always bid what I am willing to do a job for and explain my approach and level of attention to detail. FWIW I have been hired by many overseas firms that were looking for someone that could just get the job done correctly not just the cheapest provider.
Does anyone ever game the system by posting with 2 accounts: one with a really high bid and a lower one, to help the customer 'pick you'? I'm not freelancing nor have ever used these sites, Nike Roshe Womens Print
in touch with people you would never have come across. But initially since you might not have a portfolio, it will be difficult to get work this way. Also until you're able to price your work higher than average, you won't get the right kind of clients. And without the right clients you won't get paid higher. So it's a vicious cycle you need to get out of by piling up showcase work as soon Nike Roshe Men Dark Blue as possible. With lower rates it will be difficult to sustain work, since you would have to take on more work before the current one is over. Hence your focus suffers and work quality Nike Roshe Print
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